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these were his predictions for states that john mccain was definitely going to win. >> john mccain is leading in the states he's got to lead in like ohio and florida. we'll pick up pennsylvania. we think we have a good shot at virginia, new hampshire, new mexico, nevada. that's the pathway to victory for john mccain. >> see how all those states were blue? his confident predictions that john mccain was going to win all those states in 2008 were wrong in every single instance. they lost every single one of those states. even though it seemed like he was going to win all of those states the day before the election. he didn't say like he felt they were going to win. he said they have the polling data that showed they were going to win and they did not win in any of those states. this is just part of the way the game is played. it's just bluffing. and that is important context for understanding what's going on in the last four days of the campaign. there are patterns to how presidential elections end. some of the same stuff happens every four years. specifically, in 1992, the republican ca
these were his predictions for states that john mccain was definitely going to win. >> john mccain is leading in the states he's got to lead in like ohio and florida. we'll pick up pennsylvania. we think we have a good shot at virginia, new hampshire, new mexico, nevada. that's the pathway to victory for john mccain. >> see how all those states were blue? his confident predictions that john mccain was going to win all those states in 2008 were wrong in every single instance. they...
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john mccain. john kasich the governor, senator portman, senator graham. republicans from all over the country. they are all going to leave here and fan out over the country in support of mitt romney. i will be in wisconsin tomorrow. florida the next day. maybe pennsylvania. they are going to probably decide that as we move along. but the idea was all of the supporters here tonight supporting mitt romney and paul ryan and starting tomorrow morning they will all be in the different parts of the country probably mostly in the swing states. >> greta: is there any way to when he sure, ohio tonight? i know that everyone on the republican side says governor romney is going to win and everybody on president obama's side says he is going to win. how do you measure it tonight? >> i mean you know obviously, i guess an obama rally you would feel differently. at this rally it seems like he has enormous enthusiasm. this has the feeling of a winning campaign. the enthusiasm here tonight was tremendous. if this s a is swing state i feel good about it even if the polls ab
john mccain. john kasich the governor, senator portman, senator graham. republicans from all over the country. they are all going to leave here and fan out over the country in support of mitt romney. i will be in wisconsin tomorrow. florida the next day. maybe pennsylvania. they are going to probably decide that as we move along. but the idea was all of the supporters here tonight supporting mitt romney and paul ryan and starting tomorrow morning they will all be in the different parts of the...
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mccain in 2008. and here's the recycled hand he work for mccain against primary opponent mitt romney. >> mitt romney seems to change positions like the wind. he tells florida he supports the bush tax cuts. but as massachusetts governor romney refused to take a position on the bush tax cuts. where does mitt romney? whichever way the wind blows. chris: and when we come back we've got a perfect storm coming ashore. that could affect things. and we have the big jobs number coming next friday. if it's bad, could it tip the election? plus scoops and predictions right from the notebooks of these top chris: welcome back. this friday, we're going to get last unemployment report before the election. will it continue the promising trend we saw last month when the rate droppedown to 7.8%? the lowest since president obama took office. voters, optimism, favor barack obama, in the last nbc "wall street journal" national poll. voters who expect the economy to improve in the next 12 months are for president obama. by
mccain in 2008. and here's the recycled hand he work for mccain against primary opponent mitt romney. >> mitt romney seems to change positions like the wind. he tells florida he supports the bush tax cuts. but as massachusetts governor romney refused to take a position on the bush tax cuts. where does mitt romney? whichever way the wind blows. chris: and when we come back we've got a perfect storm coming ashore. that could affect things. and we have the big jobs number coming next friday....
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john mccain won the election day vote but obama had already won the election in the early voting period. we have already had 1 million people voted north carolina. at this point, the democrats are doing better on the early voting, it appears. we don't have a vote count so we don't know exactly what the tally is. if you look at things -- we know things like number of active americans who have voted and that is up from the percentage who voted in 2008. percentage is greater this time at this juncture that was in 2008. the number of younger voters who tend to be more for obama than for running a, a greater percentage is up this time compared to 2008. those are all good signs for the obama campaign. but, what that will mean at the end, we don't know but the obama campaign had a good signal from that. host: we have a chart from an article in the "atlantic." it talks about absentee ballot request in north carolina. host: the democrats made a gain of about 9000. in your observations, do you see more democrats look again for absentee ballots in 2012 over 2008? might this make a difference for t
john mccain won the election day vote but obama had already won the election in the early voting period. we have already had 1 million people voted north carolina. at this point, the democrats are doing better on the early voting, it appears. we don't have a vote count so we don't know exactly what the tally is. if you look at things -- we know things like number of active americans who have voted and that is up from the percentage who voted in 2008. percentage is greater this time at this...
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john mccain was not the greatest candidate in the world. dee sent man but not a great candidate. romney has run a brilliant campaign in the last three or four weeks. dead even race. knows where his votes are. the president has qualitiered. at the end of the day two more days of this terrible storm aren't going to make him look so great as a leader. >> thank you. see you in the hallway. more to talk about ed rollins thank you from here in new york. >> after more than a year of campaigning and billions of dollars in spending the presidential race could boil down to who wins ohio. we are live in the buckeye state. >> one of america's most respected senators calling for a brand new way to investigate what happened in libya. that took the lyes -- lives of four americans including our u.s. ambassador. >> you cannot have a situation like this continue to fester with -- it's now turned into a senate race with another huge drop a couple hours ago. believe me, there are more. >> step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that'
john mccain was not the greatest candidate in the world. dee sent man but not a great candidate. romney has run a brilliant campaign in the last three or four weeks. dead even race. knows where his votes are. the president has qualitiered. at the end of the day two more days of this terrible storm aren't going to make him look so great as a leader. >> thank you. see you in the hallway. more to talk about ed rollins thank you from here in new york. >> after more than a year of...
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caller: i voted for john mccain. guest: there is a difference between pollsters and the republican polls. when we are wrong in our numbers, our clients lose and we do not get new clients. we are careful in how we are analyzing the survey. with the public polls, they have a different goal. the more they generate stories, the better it is. we have moved back to a 2004. so many of our stories are generated by pulling numbers as opposed to being generated by the campaign. i differ in terms of controlling on party. they do not control for party. you have seen in a short period of time, party identification jumping a good 10 points. you are generating a story rather than generating reality in terms of polling. all of the polls start coming back to the center. that is with the averaging does work. as you get closer to the election, surveys have a new ones because of the weighting on party. in 2008, we ended up with five polls that were exactly the same. guest: has citizen united affected the outcome? absolutely. it has made
caller: i voted for john mccain. guest: there is a difference between pollsters and the republican polls. when we are wrong in our numbers, our clients lose and we do not get new clients. we are careful in how we are analyzing the survey. with the public polls, they have a different goal. the more they generate stories, the better it is. we have moved back to a 2004. so many of our stories are generated by pulling numbers as opposed to being generated by the campaign. i differ in terms of...
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. >> you have to remember, too, when hurricane katrina made landfall, george bush was at john mccain's birthday party. you have those pictures of him enjoying -- they were playing the guitar and hanging out and then his administration's really horrible response which is ironic because george w. bush's brother, jeb bush, is still popular in florida because of the ee fish ensee with which he would handle florida and a lot of the reason that he is still popular in that state. >> explain the connection between jeb and president obama. >> and president obama very rightly has hired the hurricane spoon guy that jeb bush used in his administration. he was always considered nonpartisan and he was somebody who made jeb look really good and now he's working for fema. he's heading fema for barack obama. >> let's go back to james warren. the question now on the table, here we are the monday before the election, a week out now, it seems to me it's not exactly a time out. for the president is it's a chance to be an executive and for romney to show prudence and recognition as a challenger to the presi
. >> you have to remember, too, when hurricane katrina made landfall, george bush was at john mccain's birthday party. you have those pictures of him enjoying -- they were playing the guitar and hanging out and then his administration's really horrible response which is ironic because george w. bush's brother, jeb bush, is still popular in florida because of the ee fish ensee with which he would handle florida and a lot of the reason that he is still popular in that state. >>...
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of course, he won iowa against john mccain in 2008. polls have always shown president obama up by a couple of points in iowa. that has tightened a little bit but the democrats are feeling confident about iowa, a two- or three-point cushion for the president there. and some of the issues for iowa are different from the rest of the nation. another thing they can point out, they can afford to lose iowa. as long as the president wins nevada and ohio, let iowa go and new hampshire. they're going to continue to hard there but there are a lot more different places where the president can get the 271. >> eliot: it sounds like the president may not be sleeping well, but he's sleeping better than mitt romney if you sum it all up. david shuster, thank you so much. >> you're welcome. >> eliot: i'm heading over to hbo for >> jennifer: i'm jennifer granholm tonight in
of course, he won iowa against john mccain in 2008. polls have always shown president obama up by a couple of points in iowa. that has tightened a little bit but the democrats are feeling confident about iowa, a two- or three-point cushion for the president there. and some of the issues for iowa are different from the rest of the nation. another thing they can point out, they can afford to lose iowa. as long as the president wins nevada and ohio, let iowa go and new hampshire. they're going to...
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my name is angela trapp, and i sea food differently. >>> up next, john mccain using storm relief to attack president obama on his handling of benghazi? we'll have the details. >>> and richard wolffe joins me to discuss how sandy will affect the presidential campaign a week before the election. we're coming right back. when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. >>> one week from tonight we may know who the next president will be. hurricane sandy has presented a unique challenge for the campaigns just one week from the the election. president obama cancelled campaign events in order to monitor recovery efforts. in an e-mail to supporters, his campaign manager asked for donations not for the the campaign, but for the american red cross stating soon enough we'l
my name is angela trapp, and i sea food differently. >>> up next, john mccain using storm relief to attack president obama on his handling of benghazi? we'll have the details. >>> and richard wolffe joins me to discuss how sandy will affect the presidential campaign a week before the election. we're coming right back. when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers......
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john mccain went there at the end of the campaign last time. george w. bush went there at the end of the campaign in 2004. in the end, i think, they can't crack ohio and because they can't crack ohio, they've got to look somewhere else. they are looking are to pennsylvania, minnesota. i don't think they are going to win either of those states. >> now, the campaign's closing argument, we keep talking about closing arguments but they sound very similar to the opening arguments. listen to this. >> i'll lead america to a better place. this is not a time for america to settle. we're four days away from a fresh start. four days away from the fresh day of a new beginning. >> america has always done best when everybody has a fair shot and everybody is doing their fair share and everybody is playing by the same rules. that's what we believe. that's why you elected me in 2008 and that's why i'm running for second term as president of the united states of america. >> so we're still basically talking about fairness and about a new direction? >> and the new direction
john mccain went there at the end of the campaign last time. george w. bush went there at the end of the campaign in 2004. in the end, i think, they can't crack ohio and because they can't crack ohio, they've got to look somewhere else. they are looking are to pennsylvania, minnesota. i don't think they are going to win either of those states. >> now, the campaign's closing argument, we keep talking about closing arguments but they sound very similar to the opening arguments. listen to...
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at that time forces supporting john mccain. the conservative government in canada has kind of debunked those ads. i wouldn't take too much into them. the debate over the canadian health care system an active one, it takes place in this country as well. on that particular score, not a lot of credence on that claim. >> let me ask you this. if we decided to come, would you take us? would canada be excited to have an influx of americans? >> we love americans and americans love us. it's one of those great stories, those great love affairs that's taken place over centuries, really. the movement of the people back and forth. the president's sister married a a canadian here in toronto. he's been up here to see them. that was a professional choice that was made. just like many head down to the states from here. >> speaking of that, as much as we're talking about the possibility of coming up there if one of our candidates doesn't win, possibly if an obama supporter is an influx of canadians. a new poll showing canadians are sort of close
at that time forces supporting john mccain. the conservative government in canada has kind of debunked those ads. i wouldn't take too much into them. the debate over the canadian health care system an active one, it takes place in this country as well. on that particular score, not a lot of credence on that claim. >> let me ask you this. if we decided to come, would you take us? would canada be excited to have an influx of americans? >> we love americans and americans love us. it's...
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supposedly john mccain saw lots of years and we've all been waiting for the week, but we haven't gotten it yet. >> they are no more than yours would be. >> you don't think the media has that and they just are not seeing it right now? and there is nothing to compel him with? >> shame. >> okay. thank you. >> i feel like we've been seeing more dialogue in the mainstream circles and i think we need to be talking about that more one of the things we are starting to see more is around what white people would have to get up and what that would mean, and that could go a lot of different deductions and i have seen a lot of interesting dialogue. do you agree that there is more of that happening and how can we foster that in a really healthy way so that white people can start to recognize what that might look like and be more healthy about making for people of color while recognizing that it is okay for us if we are giving things up what does that look like? >> i guess when i think of white privilege one of the things is and array of programs that created the class and people don't acknowledge and
supposedly john mccain saw lots of years and we've all been waiting for the week, but we haven't gotten it yet. >> they are no more than yours would be. >> you don't think the media has that and they just are not seeing it right now? and there is nothing to compel him with? >> shame. >> okay. thank you. >> i feel like we've been seeing more dialogue in the mainstream circles and i think we need to be talking about that more one of the things we are starting to see...
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and then john mccain loses pennsylvania. >> guess what? >> sometimes traditions are broken. >> you kind of wonder if maybe with this record you might go just not going to go there. >> if you look at the polls you have to look at trends. and right now ohio is going to be very tough for him. and if there is a chance, if there's a place for him to try and do it it is pennsylvania. >> so that's where you go. >> that's where you go. because if you're going from 11, 10, 9 points out to now all of a sudden like 6 and it's closing 5, 4, it's worth a shot. not to mention you already put $15 million of advertising in there. they have to take a chance. >> okay. hey morris, president obama's camp is also putting money into pennsylvania big time. is that a sign that they are worried? or is that just sort of a token move because you have money to spend? >> it's a little bit like playing poker. you want to get check, you have to get check mate. that doesn't mean you're going to go all in the republicans have gone all in by sending their candidate there.
and then john mccain loses pennsylvania. >> guess what? >> sometimes traditions are broken. >> you kind of wonder if maybe with this record you might go just not going to go there. >> if you look at the polls you have to look at trends. and right now ohio is going to be very tough for him. and if there is a chance, if there's a place for him to try and do it it is pennsylvania. >> so that's where you go. >> that's where you go. because if you're going from...
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mccain 4 years ago, because of early voting, one of the reason that democrats are so panicked renew, one reason they are trying to spend every possible tea leaf and discredit every national poll they could looking at hard -- they are looking at hard numbers from data poll numbers could one state they are not behind early vote numbers is colorado. problem is colorado happens to be one of the republican's strongest early voting states. there was a survey, by pew i believe, shows that obama is winning early vote by 7 points, he won is by 16 16, 4 years ago. lou: as we look at numbers, the fox polls the two men are locked up, 46% each. and that happens to be where the real clear politics poll of polls has this race. knotted up, even. with 5 days remaining before the election. your thoughts? >> well, here is the thing, momentum is with mitt romney, storm is a little bit of a bump. his numbers have been going up. and president obama's numbers down. with regard to early voting as well, democrat strategy to get as many people out to vote who are reliable voters while republican strategy to g
mccain 4 years ago, because of early voting, one of the reason that democrats are so panicked renew, one reason they are trying to spend every possible tea leaf and discredit every national poll they could looking at hard -- they are looking at hard numbers from data poll numbers could one state they are not behind early vote numbers is colorado. problem is colorado happens to be one of the republican's strongest early voting states. there was a survey, by pew i believe, shows that obama is...
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in fact, i secretly suspect that john mccain voted for obama in the last election. but i don't think it's such a terrible thing. a lot of irish catholics voted for jfk because he was the first irish catholic president. i don't think it's a slander upon colin powell to say this, though i don't particularly think it's true. >> the insult isn't that voted for barack obama. it's why. >> it's because he's black. i don't think that's such a terrible thing to say. like i say, lots of irish catholics voted for jfk just because he was irish catholic. >> john sununu has assumed that was the motivation behind what colin powell has done. colin powell has never used that as the reason for why he's voted for obama. >> he's probably wrong. i just don't think it's such a terrible thing to speculate about. >> if you play the race card in putting into colin powell's mouth words he hasn't actually used for his reasoning, that's just playing a race game, a rather unpleasant race game. >> maybe. but i bet there are a lot of black people who are very proud of having the first black presi
in fact, i secretly suspect that john mccain voted for obama in the last election. but i don't think it's such a terrible thing. a lot of irish catholics voted for jfk because he was the first irish catholic president. i don't think it's a slander upon colin powell to say this, though i don't particularly think it's true. >> the insult isn't that voted for barack obama. it's why. >> it's because he's black. i don't think that's such a terrible thing to say. like i say, lots of irish...
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his competitor at that time, john mccain, 32 percent among young voters. how hard is this at the end of the day when you lok at this for people to up sign-on with the president when you can't get a job? >> okay. gerri: sorry about that. i'm asking both of you. >> youngbear voters were an indispensable part of his winning coalition in 2008. 23 million younger voters went and cast their ballot. the vast majority of them went to barack bama. that is why he has these tail mary's trying to get bruce springsteen and in ohio and iowa, trying to a kid young people up to vote for him. these are not college kids. thousands are coming out on college campuses. the mtv ws swayed. nike said, you won't have any hard-hitting journalistic questions. will these tactics work? they do, but not to the same degree they did in 2008. gerri: the question is all about whether young people go and vote at the end of the day. something that i think is really important. this new ad with a young girl. she is an actress and a hit series called girls. i want you to listen to this. it's pr
his competitor at that time, john mccain, 32 percent among young voters. how hard is this at the end of the day when you lok at this for people to up sign-on with the president when you can't get a job? >> okay. gerri: sorry about that. i'm asking both of you. >> youngbear voters were an indispensable part of his winning coalition in 2008. 23 million younger voters went and cast their ballot. the vast majority of them went to barack bama. that is why he has these tail mary's trying...
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for john mccain, john mccain's votes in the red here and this beige color up here. weld county up here at the top of the state, a pivotal base of conservative support typically. president obama did especially well right here in denver, and i just obscured it with my circling, but up there in boulder county. also pueblo county, he is expected to do well. but the rest of the state, well, what are you seeing in terms of support for mitt romney this time around? >> well, mitt romney's doing really well. you know, last week he had a rally at red rocks where he got, you know, 10,000 people, and then they were turning people away. tried to go see him and paul ryan. this saturday he's got another rally at a big sort of concert arena that holds 18,000 people. the campaign says they're hoping to fill that, they think they're going to fill that. but, you know, last night president obama was in boulder which is a blue area of the state simply trying to get out the vote at this point. i don't think anyone thinks there's that many undecided voters, so they need every single young
for john mccain, john mccain's votes in the red here and this beige color up here. weld county up here at the top of the state, a pivotal base of conservative support typically. president obama did especially well right here in denver, and i just obscured it with my circling, but up there in boulder county. also pueblo county, he is expected to do well. but the rest of the state, well, what are you seeing in terms of support for mitt romney this time around? >> well, mitt romney's doing...
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here's john mccain in ohio with the romney campaign. >> this president is either engaged in a massive cover-up deceiving the american people or he's so grossly incompetent that he's not qualified to be the commander in chief of our own forces. >> jonathan capehart, that's what not campaigning looks like in romney world. >> yeah, clearly senator mccain didn't get the memo from the top of the ticket that, you know, they were supposed to be doing things to help people who had been ravaged by hurricane sandy. but, you know, senator mccain just, i guess he had to get it out of his system because this has been eating at him, the whole libya question and that's not to say there aren't questions to be answered, but they were supposed to be there to be focused on the victims of hurricane sandy, not blasting the president. and you jux pose that to the president and what he's been doing in terms of making sure people in all the affected states and areas get the help they need. what they also should have done is taken a cue from governor christie about what they should have been focused on today.
here's john mccain in ohio with the romney campaign. >> this president is either engaged in a massive cover-up deceiving the american people or he's so grossly incompetent that he's not qualified to be the commander in chief of our own forces. >> jonathan capehart, that's what not campaigning looks like in romney world. >> yeah, clearly senator mccain didn't get the memo from the top of the ticket that, you know, they were supposed to be doing things to help people who had...
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while romney's numbers are considerably better than john mccain's, which were at 38% four years ago. the cheering was deafening at this large obama rally on cleveland's lakefront but many obama supporters say it feels different than four years ago. >> it's seriously just a different kind of excitement. it's more sort of tempered in like reality that this is a campaign, not a crusade. >> thank you. >> reporter: on the gop side, anti-obama sentiment remains a key component of pushing supporters to vote. much the same as four years ago. >> i think it's more important to get obama out. i do. i absolutely think it's more important to get obama out. >> reporter: clearly mitt romney and barack obama have some complicated relationships with their supporters. but no doubt neither candidate will care as long as the supporters make it to the polls. gary tuchman, cnn, cleveland. >> let's delve into the raw politics with gop strategist mary matalin and democratic strategist, james carville. good evening to you both. james, cornell belcher, the obama 2012 pollster, was on the program last night an
while romney's numbers are considerably better than john mccain's, which were at 38% four years ago. the cheering was deafening at this large obama rally on cleveland's lakefront but many obama supporters say it feels different than four years ago. >> it's seriously just a different kind of excitement. it's more sort of tempered in like reality that this is a campaign, not a crusade. >> thank you. >> reporter: on the gop side, anti-obama sentiment remains a key component of...
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it was clear john mccain was toast and the president was going to carry ohio. it's a lot different this year because the romney campaign have enough to get over the top, that's the question we'll answer in the next hundred hours or so, but the intensity at the romney campaign was off the charts. governor romney's expecting some 30,000 people in ohio tonight not that the ohio people aren't working hard, too. they have a very impressive obama operation, but the republican operation compared to four years ago, it's not a comparison. much better. we're going to have an interesting day come tuesday. >> it's going to be exciting for the whole country. >>> last minute moves. a strategy that's either desperate or brilliant, depending on who you ask. mitt romney is making an 11th hour push for pennsylvania. a jackpot with 20 electoral votes. pouring 6 million into the state on advertising. he's never led in a single poll there since he became a nominee. cnn has that in the obama category, but the president's lead has been shrinking and polls show president obama had bee
it was clear john mccain was toast and the president was going to carry ohio. it's a lot different this year because the romney campaign have enough to get over the top, that's the question we'll answer in the next hundred hours or so, but the intensity at the romney campaign was off the charts. governor romney's expecting some 30,000 people in ohio tonight not that the ohio people aren't working hard, too. they have a very impressive obama operation, but the republican operation compared to...
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carey in 2004 and john mccain in 2008, the only district that slipped from democratic to republican in between those two elections. was are the voters president wants, clinging to their guns and religion, the kind of white working-class workers that the president is having the most trouble connecting with. the obama campaign is advertising as well. they have a turnout machine in philadelphia. pacs don't want the obama campaign to gin up their turnout machine. i think that machine will start to get engaged and that machine will drive president obama's margin down there. that's in southeastern pennsylvania. host: we're talking about an october surprise in campaign 2012 and the history of it. this on twitter -- guest: she's probably right. many people aboard a voted. there is 1 weeks ago. the average american is paying attention to something other than politics, whether it's their own economic situation or recovering from storm damage in a swing state like virginia or new hampshire. -- many people have voted already. ballistics of trying to get around the place after a storm can be a r
carey in 2004 and john mccain in 2008, the only district that slipped from democratic to republican in between those two elections. was are the voters president wants, clinging to their guns and religion, the kind of white working-class workers that the president is having the most trouble connecting with. the obama campaign is advertising as well. they have a turnout machine in philadelphia. pacs don't want the obama campaign to gin up their turnout machine. i think that machine will start to...
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in 2008, when the candidates were running, john mccain took his name off the bill. it's not true it was killed by both parties. >> let's talk about what barack obama has done. he hasn't proposed a plan. one thing that comes out of the book is president obama doesn't enjoy the policy negotiations with congress. itis not his thing. >> why wuld you enjoy that? you would have to be a masochist to enjoy that. >> it's how you pass it. bill clinton did enjoy it. maybe he was a masochist. >> he was impeached. >> exactly. that's what he got for it. >> you have to get into the nitty gritty and have those policies. >> let me ask you about this. romney, we all saw him get up there and take the wood to rick perry in the primaries on immigration. you want to spend $100,000 of taxpayer money on these illegals that are coming into the country? it's what you want to do? the question is, why did he do that? the answer is clear. the incentives are to use that language, beat up and get to the right of people. if those are the incentives, why are they going to be any different? when are
in 2008, when the candidates were running, john mccain took his name off the bill. it's not true it was killed by both parties. >> let's talk about what barack obama has done. he hasn't proposed a plan. one thing that comes out of the book is president obama doesn't enjoy the policy negotiations with congress. itis not his thing. >> why wuld you enjoy that? you would have to be a masochist to enjoy that. >> it's how you pass it. bill clinton did enjoy it. maybe he was a...